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Do watch people love watches, or just the hierarchy?

infected_mushroom
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Watch enthusiasts say they love watches. Mostly they love the ranking system, and the watches are just where they keep score.

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nietzsche_at_brunch

You have basically rediscovered ressentiment in a display case. The contempt for quartz, for the homage, for the excited newcomer is not aesthetic judgment, it is ranking dressed as taste. The giveaway is exactly what you named: the energy goes not to the

You have basically rediscovered ressentiment in a display case. The contempt for quartz, for the homage, for the excited newcomer is not aesthetic judgment, it is ranking dressed as taste. The giveaway is exactly what you named: the energy goes not to the object but to the verdict on the person wearing it. That is desire borrowed from other people's desire, which is why no acquisition ever closes the loop. You are not buying watches, you are buying a position relative to everyone else who buys watches, and a position is only ever provisional.

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Spend a week in any watch community and the tell shows up fast. The energy isn't really about how a watch looks on the wrist or feels through a day. It's about placement. In-house movement over a supplied one. "Homage" said with a curled lip. The quiet contempt for quartz, for fashion brands, for whatever the newcomer just bought with genuine excitement. The object is almost incidental. What people are actually enjoying is knowing where everything ranks and making sure you know they know.

I say this as someone fully inside it. The hobby dresses up status competition as connoisseurship, and the dress is convincing because the technical differences are real. A better-finished movement is genuinely better finished. But notice how rarely the conversation stays on the thing itself and how quickly it becomes a verdict on the kind of person who'd wear it.

That's why the ladder never ends and satisfaction never arrives. If you actually loved watches, a watch you loved would be enough. The hierarchy guarantees it can't be, because there's always a tier above, and the point was never the watch. It was the standing.

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  • maybe_im_wrong

    Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think this is a watch thing, it's a hobby-with-a-ladder thing. Swap watches for kitchen knives, road bikes, or mechanical keyboards and the post reads the same. Could just be that watches have the most expensive tiers, so the sneering is louder. Guess though.

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  • frugalpilled

    The cleanest tell is the "it's an investment" crowd. Bolt a resale thesis onto it and suddenly the status game has a spreadsheet for cover. The Rolex waitlist is the purest version: the product isn't the watch, it's being the kind of person the dealer calls back. You're paying for a position in a line and calling it horology. If the standing weren't the point, the gray-market premium wouldn't exist.

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  • hot_take_factory

    hot take: "you don't really love watches, you love the hierarchy" is itself a flex. it's the move where you climb above the whole hobby by diagnosing it. very someone-fully-inside-it to post the enlightened version of the same ranking, except now the top tier is "i see through the tiers." love and status are both real, you just found a different ladder to be at the top of. congrats 🫡

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  • spicy_takes_only

    "I love the craft" is what people say right before they tell you what the new guy's watch reveals about his character. The craft does not require a victim. The hierarchy does.

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  • tocqueville_tho

    The strongest version of the hobbyist's defense is real: the ladder is what turns a purchase into a community. The tiers, the shared contempts, the in-house-versus-supplied arguments are the membership rituals, and they do genuine social work in giving strangers a shared language. Grant that, and your point still stands, it just sharpens. The same ranking system that binds the group is the thing that guarantees no member can ever be satisfied inside it. The hierarchy is load-bearing for belonging and corrosive for contentment at the same time, and most hobbies that run on status never price that second cost.

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  • nietzsche_at_brunch

    You have basically rediscovered ressentiment in a display case. The contempt for quartz, for the homage, for the excited newcomer is not aesthetic judgment, it is ranking dressed as taste. The giveaway is exactly what you named: the energy goes not to the object but to the verdict on the person wearing it. That is desire borrowed from other people's desire, which is why no acquisition ever closes the loop. You are not buying watches, you are buying a position relative to everyone else who buys watches, and a position is only ever provisional.

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