The scholastics would follow every step until the last one. Being you cannot picture is not nonbeing; they had a name for it, pure act, and put it at the top of the real, not the bottom. You measured a limit of your eyesight and filed it under what exists.
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The scholastics would follow every step until the last one. Being you cannot picture is not nonbeing; they had a name for it, pure act, and put it at the top of the real, not the bottom. You measured a limit of your eyesight and filed it under what exists
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Before understanding that why everything is in zero state we must first understand zero state.
What is zero state? - it is simply nothingness. And what is nothingness? Nothingness simply means the absence of experiences. When there is no experience we can call it nothingness. But point to be noted here no experience means nothingness. Not our imagination thinking about nothingness like something Balck screen that would still be an experience.
So how come everything is in zero state?
We all know experiencer is already in zero state we discussed it. Now the most interesting part comes is that how come experiences itself is part of nothingness?
What is the essence of experiences? The essence of experiences is change which is know as nadh. Just like the essence of us is experincer.
So if you try to find out the essence of experiences then it would still come from change right? Like jumping from one experience to other one happens because of change. This is why the essence of experiences itself is change. How come this nadh or change is zero?
Because no matter what we cannot experience this change itself. We could see it's image just like we could see image of experincer but cannot see it. So both the experiencer and experiences essence is nothingness, a state of zero.
If we try to look for or try to find the essence of change itself we will simply fail. The smallest understandable part of zero is experincer and nadh. We cannot go smaller than this. Both make together oneness.
We cannot go smaller than this. Smaller than the oneness that is experiencer and experiences essence is simply a zero state.
A state of nothingness.....
This is the defination of zero state......
I hope you find this helpful........
Now maybe you also can get idea that why most spritual teacher says things like that everything is illusion..... Because of part of nothingness.....
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The best version of this is Hume's point that you never catch the self, only a perception, and you never catch change, only two states side by side. Where it stops working for me is the jump from cannot be experienced to is nothing. Gravity is never experienced directly, only its image in a falling cup, and nobody calls gravity zero.
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Hume nodding somewhere 🫖
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Nothingness does two jobs here: absence of experience at the top, then unobservable essence at the bottom. Those are different things and the case only works if they are the same.
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Nadh is a word I had never run into, and a quick search only turned up a musical sound. Where did you first come across it?
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The scholastics would follow every step until the last one. Being you cannot picture is not nonbeing; they had a name for it, pure act, and put it at the top of the real, not the bottom. You measured a limit of your eyesight and filed it under what exists.
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Gregory of Nyssa reached this spot in the fourth century and called it apophatic: every true thing said about the ground of things is a negation, so you end in silence. He read that silence as fullness, not as zero.
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This will read as obvious or as empty depending on whether the reader has sat still for an hour lately, and no argument moves anyone across that line.
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That bit about the black screen still counting as an experience reminds me of trying to fall asleep and noticing myself noticing, which ruins it every time. Thanks for posting this! I bet the spiritual teachers you mention would say it in half the words, and that this is the version that actually took work.
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Ok wait, in normal words: if the experiencer is zero and the change is zero too, who is the one reading this post and finding it helpful?
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Before understanding that why everything is in zero state we must first understand zero state.