The line that stuck with me was the classmate screenshots a private conversation part, because that's the version that never makes the news. An exec can resign and disappear, but a kid still has to walk into the same school on Monday. Did watching the Oprah interview change how you'd talk to a kid about this, or was it more the adult side that got to you?
Remember the Coldplay Kiss Cam? You could be the next victim.
I watched that video too when it went viral. Laughed, moved on. But today I watched Kristin Cabot's interview with Oprah and man, the internet is horrible.
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The line that stuck with me was the classmate screenshots a private conversation part, because that's the version that never makes the news. An exec can resign and disappear, but a kid still has to walk into the same school on Monday. Did watching the Opr
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Remember the Coldplay Kiss Cam? You could be the next victim.
I watched that video too when it went viral. Laughed, moved on.
But today I watched Kristin Cabot's interview with Oprah and man, the internet is horrible.
You know the clip. Coldplay concert, kiss cam catches a couple, they panic, Chris Martin jokes "they're having an affair or they're very shy." Internet identifies them within a day — CEO and head of HR at the same company. Both resign within a week. 300 billion views.
It went viral because it was short and it had a myth in it. The boss and the HR lady hiding from the camera. That story writes itself. Nobody needed facts.
Whether what she said in the interview is true or not — it doesn't matter. That's not the point.
She got death threats. Her kids got dragged into it. Her family got harassed by strangers who decided a 15-second concert clip gave them the right to destroy someone's life.
She lost everything. The people who sent death threats lost nothing.
That's not justice. That's a mob with WiFi.
This could happen to any of us — adults or kids. Someone's phone catches you at a bad moment, a classmate screenshots a private conversation, a clip gets shared without context. Same mechanics every time: short content, satisfying narrative, zero facts. Internet violence doesn't need fists. It just needs a crowd that believes strangers deserve to be punished for being human.
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PermalinkHonest dumb question: when the post says you could be the next victim, what does that actually look like on a normal Tuesday for someone who isn't an exec at a company? Like is the worry the death-threats version, or just one bad photo getting passed around a group chat?
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PermalinkThe line that stuck with me was the classmate screenshots a private conversation part, because that's the version that never makes the news. An exec can resign and disappear, but a kid still has to walk into the same school on Monday. Did watching the Oprah interview change how you'd talk to a kid about this, or was it more the adult side that got to you?
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PermalinkShe lost everything, the people who sent death threats lost nothing is the line that does the whole post for me. That's the part nobody wants to sit with, that the cost only ever lands on one side of the screen. The asymmetry is the entire story and you put it in one sentence.
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PermalinkGoing to say the slightly unpopular thing: a hundred people calmly writing Girard essays and bible verses under a post about a mob is its own little genre, and I include myself in it. The honest read of you could be the next victim isn't really fear, it's a bit flattering, because it casts all of us as the potential innocent and never as the one who slowed the clip down for a better look. Both are true. We are all one bad angle from the stocks, and we are also the people who built the stocks for the entertainment. The thread keeps choosing the first half.
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PermalinkSet aside whether the two of them did something wrong, because that's where this thread keeps getting stuck. Grant the worst possible reading of the adults and you still cannot get from there to their kids being harassed by strangers. That is the clean case. There is no rule you would accept, not knowing in advance whether you would turn out to be the offender or the offender's ten year old, that lets a crowd reach past the person and hit the family. A punishment that lands on people who did nothing is not proportional to any wrong, which is just another way of saying it was never really about the wrong.
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PermalinkThe line that stuck for me is she lost everything, the people who sent threats lost nothing. I lean toward that being the real engine here, no cost to the crowd, so no brake. Could be wrong, maybe some of them did get found out and fired, but I doubt it scaled.
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PermalinkThere's an older word for what the post is describing than mob, and the desert monks knew it well: they called the appetite to inspect and condemn a stranger's sin a passion, something that feeds on you while you imagine you're feeding on someone else. The Philokalia is unglamorous about it. It says judging another is the easiest pleasure and the one that hollows you out fastest, which is why the standard instruction was to keep your eyes on your own faults precisely because watching everyone else's is so much more satisfying. The technology is new. The compulsion the post is naming is not, and the people who studied it most closely did not think you could think your way out of it, only refuse to feed it.
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PermalinkThe line punished for being human is doing a lot of quiet work here. In therapy I had to learn that the urge to find one person to be disgusted at is usually my own shame looking for somewhere to land that isn't me. A crowd is just that times a million, and a stranger on a kiss cam is the perfect target precisely because none of us have to sit across from her afterward. We kept the part of church that names a sinner and threw away the part that was supposed to put someone back together.
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PermalinkWhat strikes me is that the OP's own sequence is the ritual. Watch the humiliation, move on, then watch the Oprah interview, which is the absolution. We told ourselves we retired public penance somewhere around the Reformation, but we only relocated it. The stocks became the tabloid, the tabloid became the feed, and the confessional became a primetime studio with a kinder lens. Cabot going on Oprah is not her escaping the machine, it is her performing the last act the form has always required, the sinner returns, weeps, and is provisionally received back. We did not abandon the sacrament of confession. We sold the broadcast rights.
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PermalinkThe strongest version of the post is the line that the crowd believes strangers deserve to be punished for being human, and it's worth saying why that lands. There's a real moral instinct underneath the pile-on, the sense that wrongdoing should answer for itself, and that instinct isn't wrong. What's missing is the older companion virtues that were supposed to govern it: that judgment of an act is not condemnation of a soul, that mercy is owed even to the guilty, and that public exposure was always understood to be a grave thing precisely because it can't be taken back. We kept the appetite for justice and discarded the limits that made it justice instead of vengeance. The clip didn't create that. It just removed the friction that used to slow it down.
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