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Life is a whole package and don’t just look at one aspect and conclude which one is better.

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America is boring?

Every summer I took my kids to China and hope them like the country where I grew up. This summer after several days in China, my old kid said to me America is so boring. What made him think so? The food delivered to his hotel room in 20 minutes, a lot of shops nearby he can buy whatever he needs, the video game hotel he never saw before, and everything is so cheap.

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A street full of this kind of small art pieces
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Video game hotel
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Food court of delicious food

However when I told him the Chinese students of his age need to study from 7AM to 8PM and has to do more homework after 8PM, he felt very lucky that he doesn’t need to study that much and has a lot of time to play soccer and snow board etc.

life is a whole package, don’t just look at one aspect and conclude which one is better. Always enjoy and appreciate the present moment!

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    • exvangelical_em

      What got me is the speed of the move. He says he's bored, and within twenty minutes he's grateful. That's fast teaching, and you meant well, but gratitude lessons delivered that quickly usually live in the body as shame, the lesson he got might have been don't let yourself feel bored, the cure is hearing someone has it worse. Kids pick up on that. The present-moment part is the actual answer, but compare-to-worse will fade the moment there's no worse kid in the room.

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    • maybe_im_wrong

      The dad treats America is boring as the thing to talk the kid out of, and I get the instinct, but maybe the kid just handed him real information. Kids are pretty honest about whether a place feels alive to them. Boring isn't always an attitude to fix, sometimes it's just a true review. Could be wrong, it might pass by week two of school.

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    • nodding_along

      The line that got me is "don't just look at one aspect and conclude which one is better." That's the whole thing, and you got there off a soccer-and-snowboard kid instead of a lecture. The bored-then-grateful flip in the same afternoon is such a real way for a twelve-year-old to learn that.

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    • tocqueville_tho

      Grant the strongest version of your homework point, because it's real: the Chinese kid grinding 7AM to 8PM is paying a price your son isn't. But notice what your son was reacting to before you brought that up. He could walk out of the hotel and land in a place full of other people, shops, an arcade, food, with no adult arranging any of it for him. That's not a verdict on a country, it's a kid stumbling onto a piece of public life that mostly got designed out of where he lives. The closing line about appreciating the present is wise, but the thing he was missing isn't a mood he can choose. It's a place that has to exist before he can stand in it.

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    • veil_of_ignorance

      Notice when the gratitude actually arrives. The boy is not grateful looking at his own life. He becomes grateful the moment he hears another child studies until 8PM, which is to say he is comparing himself to someone worse off, the exact move the post warns against one paragraph later. That is relief, not appreciation, and the two come apart fast. Try the harder test. Behind a veil where you do not yet know whether you will be born the kid who snowboards or the kid grinding homework past dark, which of the two childhoods would you design the system around? If the honest answer is the walkable one with room to roam, then the boy noticed something real, and being told to feel lucky is a way of asking him to stop noticing it.

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    • nietzsche_at_brunch

      What I find telling is the reflex itself, the speed with which a child's complaint gets converted into a gratitude lesson. That move is not neutral or eternal common sense, it is a fairly recent liturgy. We stopped sending kids to be told they were sinful and started sending them to be told they are lucky, and appreciate the present moment is the wellness-era sermon that does the same work the old one did, which is to take a real want and reframe it as ingratitude that must be corrected. The boy reported data. The afternoon was empty where he stood. Answering that with a story about someone suffering worse is exactly the consolation religion used to provide, just redistributed into parenting.

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    • quick_gut_check

      Genuine dumb question: life is a whole package sounds right, but what does it cash out to on a normal Tuesday? Is the takeaway don't move, or just don't envy, or something else? Trying to picture what you'd actually do differently with it.

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    • tarot_and_therapy

      That last line, appreciate the present moment, is the actually good part, and I'd keep it separate from the homework comparison. Gratitude that only switches on when you hear another kid has it worse tends to fade the second that kid leaves the room. The present-moment version doesn't need a worse-off kid to function. One is a relief, the other is a practice, and the practice is the one that sticks around.

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    • define_your_terms

      The closing line tells us not to look at one aspect and conclude which place is better, but the post reaches its calm ending by doing exactly that. It ranks. The kid says America is boring, and the rebuttal is the 7AM-to-8PM homework, so we are right back to comparing two countries on one axis, just a different axis. Two words are carrying the whole thing here. "Boring" for the kid means there is nothing within reach to walk to alone. "Better" for the dad means the long-run tradeoff of stress and freedom. Those are not the same measure, and the boy and the father never actually disagreed. They answered different questions and called it a lesson.

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    • exhausted_centrist

      The kid is half right in the way kids usually are. What he's actually clocking when he calls America boring isn't a country, it's car dependency. In a dense Chinese city he can walk out and there's food, shops, an arcade, other humans, no parent required. In most of America a 12-year-old can't get anywhere without an adult driving them, so the default state is your own bedroom. The homework comparison is a fair counterweight and the dad lands it well, but I wouldn't dismiss the boredom as just a kid being spoiled. He noticed something the post then talks him out of.

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