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Should we stop gatekeeping who counts as a real Christian?

LordMonroe
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Something occurred to me today. For centuries, especially in the English-speaking world, Catholics were often portrayed as superstitious, anti-intellectual, hostile to freedom, and blindly obedient to authority. Some of that came from real conflicts. Some of it came from centuries of Protestant polemics and what historians call the Black Legend. Either way, the image became deeply embedded in Western culture.

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SweetDreams

That's probably why ordinary Christians often get frustrated with the stereotypes. Their lived experience looks nothing like the caricatures.

That's probably why ordinary Christians often get frustrated with the stereotypes.

Their lived experience looks nothing like the caricatures.

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Something occurred to me today. For centuries, especially in the English-speaking world, Catholics were often portrayed as superstitious, anti-intellectual, hostile to freedom, and blindly obedient to authority. Some of that came from real conflicts. Some of it came from centuries of Protestant polemics and what historians call the Black Legend. Either way, the image became deeply embedded in Western culture.

Then Hollywood arrived and inherited many of those assumptions. How many movies have we seen where the religious figure is narrow-minded, afraid of science, obsessed with rules, or trying to control people's lives?

What I find interesting is that I don't think those stereotypes stayed confined to Catholics. At some point, people stopped making distinctions. The stereotype became "Christians."

The priest became the pastor. The Catholic became the evangelical. The old caricature of one denomination slowly became a caricature of the entire faith. The Black Legend backfired And the irony is that Christians helped this happen. Protestants spent centuries attacking Catholics. Catholics attacked Protestants back. Every denomination seemed eager to explain why the others were the problem.

Meanwhile, the broader culture looked at all of us and concluded that Christianity itself was the problem. I find that depressing because most ordinary Christians I know are not the people from those stereotypes. They're teachers, engineers, nurses, scientists, parents, and neighbors trying to live out their faith as best they can.

We still have theological differences, and those differences... honestly don't matter too much. But I sometimes wonder whether we spent so much energy fighting one another that we forgot how we appeared to everyone else. To many people outside the Church, we're not Catholics, Protestants, Orthodox, or anything else. We're just Christians.

Maybe it's time we remembered that too.

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  • exvangelical_em

    From inside, the gatekeeping wasn't an abstraction, it was the whole architecture. Which church, which reading, who was "really" saved, whether the family three pews over counted. That stuff organized everything. So when the OP says outsiders just see "Christians," sure, but the flattening cuts both ways. The day I stopped going, none of the distinctions I'd been taught were eternal followed me out the door, and the thing I actually missed wasn't the doctrine, it was the casseroles and the rides to the airport. The differences felt enormous from the inside and weirdly weightless the second I left. Both of those were true at the same time.

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  • fultonsheen_fan

    The sociological observation is correct and worth sitting with. Where I'd push gently is the line that the differences "honestly don't matter too much." What an outsider can't see and what doesn't matter are two different claims, and the post slides from one into the other. A nurse on the street can't tell a Thomist from a Calvinist, granted. That tells you about the nurse's field of view, not about whether the doctrine of justification is load-bearing. Chesterton's version fits: the big things weren't tried and found wanting so much as found difficult and left unmade. Solidarity in how we're perceived is a fine thing to want. It just isn't an argument that the things we disagree about are small.

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  • occams_chainsaw

    Half of this is outgroup homogeneity bias and it isn't special to Christianity. To an outsider every internal distinction collapses, and the people inside always find that maddening because the distinctions are the entire point to them. Ask an atheist whether they enjoy being lumped in with whichever loud guy was on cable last night. The part worth flagging is that the post runs the same move in reverse: "the broader culture concluded Christianity was the problem" is itself one undifferentiated bloc doing the concluding. There is no single culture that reached a verdict. That's the same lump, just pointed the other way.

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  • Martin1987

    Whether one is Catholic, Protestant, or Orthodox, the article raises an uncomfortable possibility:

    The culture may have spent less time listening to Christians argue with one another than Christians imagine, and more time concluding that they were all part of the same story.

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  • Pinkflower

    And perhaps that's the irony.

    Centuries of Christians arguing about which branch represented true Christianity may have helped create a culture that stopped distinguishing between branches altogether.

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  • LindaRosse

    I think the article ultimately makes a plea for perspective.

    Not for theological uniformity, but for remembering that shared identity exists alongside disagreement.

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  • TheMonkyKing

    Hollywood priest: evil , controlling , hates science

    actual church guy: trying to figure out why the projector isn't working

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  • SweetDreams

    That's probably why ordinary Christians often get frustrated with the stereotypes.

    Their lived experience looks nothing like the caricatures.

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  • CommonSenseCarl

    Honestly?

    If your neighbor helps coach little league, volunteers at church, and brings you soup when you're sick, nobody cares whether he's Anglican or Catholic.

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  • RoccoEvanguelista

    Theologically, differences matter.

    Sociologically, the article is probably right.

    Most non-Christians see one broad religious civilization rather than dozens of competing traditions.

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